Are there any other devices that are compatible ?
Will these sources be around for a long time and in quantity ?
Motorola is out of the modem business. They made a linux driver for the
sm56 that was binary only and for 2.4.5 only.
--
Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:32 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Critchfield" <critch@basesys.com>
Quote:
> Based on the FXO zaptel driver code, the FXO hardware is either the 100P or the 101P.
>
> http://www.yourvote.com/pci/vendors.txt
> 1057 Motorola
> 5608 SM56 PCI Fax Voice Modem
> E159 Tiger Jet Network Inc
> 0001 Tiger 300/320 PCI interface
> ======
>
> Are there any other devices that are compatible ?
> Will these sources be around for a long time and in quantity ?
Motorola is out of the modem business. They made a linux driver for the
sm56 that was binary only and for 2.4.5 only.
The wcfxo.c code may then be out-dated, or maybe the table entries are reversed.
It seems to indicate that the the E159 0001 PCI device is the Wildcard 101P instead of the 100P.
The main question is how long the hardware will be viable, available, etc.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:19 am Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:32:11PM -0600, Jim Fleming wrote:
Quote:
The wcfxo.c code may then be out-dated, or maybe the table entries are reversed.
It seems to indicate that the the E159 0001 PCI device is the Wildcard 101P instead of the 100P.
The main question is how long the hardware will be viable, available, etc.
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:15 am Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
I have one here, couldn't get it to work with Asterisk.
Here is the output of cat /proc/pci
Bus 2, device 10, function 0:
Communication controller: PCI device 1057:5608 (Motorola) (rev 0).
IRQ 9.
Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=1.Max Lat=128.
I/O at 0xd800 [0xd8ff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xed800000 [0xed800fff].
I couldn't get it to work with Asterisk, maybe you'll be luckier than me
!
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-February/007723.html
Mark Spencer asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
The more attractive option will likely be our PCI
station card which (with a single port) will have a projected $125 price
tag (additional ports will be $60/port when purchased at the same time, up
to a total of four FXS interfaces on the PCI card for $305 total). This
certainly isn't as cheap as the $40 Actiontec interface, but it will be
fully supported by Digium, and of course proceeds will support further
development of Asterisk. The station card is currently in production and
is expected in March. Greg (gvance@digium.com) can be your contact if
you're interested in them. I believe he is keeping a list of people to
inform when they come in from manufacturing.
====
The Tiger 320 chip is what produces the 0xE159/0x0001 pci vendor ID
combination. It's a very popular chip that provides a PCI interfaces and
a TDM bus that can be interfaced to any number of backends. For example
I have a ISDN BRI card here that uses it. It's also used in a lot of
modems.
Driving the card is only partly driving the Tiger 320; the other part is
driving whatever is behind that, and it's quite likely to NOT be what's
used on Digium's boards. You can get the driver to detect the board
usually and init the Tiger chip, but you won't get valid data since it's
not properly using what's on the other end of the TDM bus.
I ran into this when I first got the BRI card; zaptel thought it was a
Wildcat T1 card, except with only two channels instead of 24. Just had
to tell zaptel to check the subsystem vendor ID as well as the vendor
ID.
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-February/007723.html
Mark Spencer asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
The more attractive option will likely be our PCI
station card which (with a single port) will have a projected $125 price
tag (additional ports will be $60/port when purchased at the same time, up
to a total of four FXS interfaces on the PCI card for $305 total). This
certainly isn't as cheap as the $40 Actiontec interface, but it will be
fully supported by Digium, and of course proceeds will support further
development of Asterisk. The station card is currently in production and
is expected in March. Greg (gvance@digium.com) can be your contact if
you're interested in them. I believe he is keeping a list of people to
inform when they come in from manufacturing.
====
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:04 am Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
On Thursday 27 February 2003 01:27, Percy Kwong wrote:
Quote:
> > If someone wants to read me the FCC-ID off the Wildcat
> > FXO, I can tell you who makes the card.
1. Wildcard.
2. We know who makes the card: Digium.
3. Digium is the main sponsor and employer of the primary
author (and still primary developer) of Asterisk.
4. While I don't really blame you for trying to find cheap
hardware, do you really think it is wise to attempt to undermine
the revenue stream of the guy who wrote the system?
Quote:
Is that the full FCC ID?
Also: any way to get a picture of the card front and back?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:23 am Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
Tilghman Lesher wrote:
Quote:
4. While I don't really blame you for trying to find cheap
hardware, do you really think it is wise to attempt to undermine
the revenue stream of the guy who wrote the system?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 2:39 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-dev-admin@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-dev-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 01:04
To: asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
> 3. Digium is the main sponsor and employer of the primary
author (and still primary developer) of Asterisk.
4. While I don't really blame you for trying to find cheap
hardware, do you really think it is wise to attempt to undermine
the revenue stream of the guy who wrote the system?
While I agree with you, I've been investigating the suggested products on
this list to fulfill a role that Digium does not supply (I wish they did)
Ideally I would like a self-contained, remote office VoIP router (including
1 FXO, 2 FXS, and at least 2 10/100 LAN ports) that ties into the LAN at
that end and can be configured to:
1. autointelligently route calls to PSTN or IP (should be configuarable and
optionally get config info from, and possible route calls to, my remote
asterisk server)
2. cooperates with other similar units and additional FXS devices to provide
a cohesive system (for discussion, say piggybacking of units to support up
to 4 PSTN lines and 8 FXS ports - it will tend to be self-controlling due to
bandwidth limitations out of the 10/100)
I know I can do this with a PC ... I'm talking about something a little less
demanding on admin time ie I can set up a router with a Linux box that has a
lot of flexibility or I can buy a SOHO/home user broadband router if I need
less flexibility - but with less admin overhead
I think there would be a substantial market for a (single source) hardware
company that:
1. provides modular, self-contained units (some with FXO and FXS and some
with FXS only) that provide a system that is modularly extendable
2. provides a full fledged VoIP PBX system hardware for single PSTN lines up
to T1 lines that is modulary extendable
3. software to run/control it all with ease of initial setup with the
ability for fine-grained, customizable control
I think digium fills the role for 2 and 3.
Providing 1. (or finding other hardware suppliers for 1.) will simplify the
path from analog to VoIP for many, many, many users
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
Quote:
Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>4. While I don't really blame you for trying to find cheap
>hardware, do you really think it is wise to attempt to undermine
>the revenue stream of the guy who wrote the system?
>
>
Especially in a forum hosted by Digium.
That may not be his reason.
Personally I would love to buy digium products - I cannot legally do so in
the 1-4 port range. I have been champing at the bit for a year and a half
to start using Asterisk for our own business and with a partner for
Small-medium size offices, and until digium gets the legal paperwork done
for Australia/NZ it`s a no go
So while I may donate to digium, at this time I cannot buy and resell the
products to what I see as a niche market in Australia that will soon get
filled by sombody else ;-(
So I am DEFINETELY interested in this or anything else (that is vaguely
affordable ie. saleable) I can use in Australia - digium or otherwise. FYI
that actiontec thing is available right now in NZ for about $170
Incidentally, has anyone looked at this Open Source Project using
full-duplex voice modems on linux? http://www.vocpsystem.com Just stumbled
over it.
They quote a usable modem list of:
Zyxel 1496 and 2864
MultiTech MultiModem MT2834 ZDX V and MT5600ZDXV External
ELSA MicroLink TQV series
US Robotics/3Com 56K Voice FaxModem Model 5610
Diamond 56e Pro voice
External Zoom/Faxmodem V.92
Zoom 56K PCI internal
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] FXO Hardware Sourcing
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 08:39, Brian Johnson wrote:
Quote:
Ideally I would like a self-contained, remote office VoIP router (including
1 FXO, 2 FXS, and at least 2 10/100 LAN ports) that ties into the LAN at
that end and can be configured to:
1. autointelligently route calls to PSTN or IP (should be configuarable and
optionally get config info from, and possible route calls to, my remote
asterisk server)
2. cooperates with other similar units and additional FXS devices to provide
a cohesive system (for discussion, say piggybacking of units to support up
to 4 PSTN lines and 8 FXS ports - it will tend to be self-controlling due to
bandwidth limitations out of the 10/100)
I know I can do this with a PC ... I'm talking about something a little less
demanding on admin time ie I can set up a router with a Linux box that has a
lot of flexibility or I can buy a SOHO/home user broadband router if I need
less flexibility - but with less admin overhead
I think there would be a substantial market for a (single source) hardware
company that:
1. provides modular, self-contained units (some with FXO and FXS and some
with FXS only) that provide a system that is modularly extendable
2. provides a full fledged VoIP PBX system hardware for single PSTN lines up
to T1 lines that is modulary extendable
3. software to run/control it all with ease of initial setup with the
ability for fine-grained, customizable control
I think digium fills the role for 2 and 3.
Providing 1. (or finding other hardware suppliers for 1.) will simplify the
path from analog to VoIP for many, many, many users
Rarely do you find modularity and small port density. At that point it
is easy to build standalone units with set specs.
What you may want to try and do is talk with Adtran, or CAC about
getting a VoIP stack wedged on their router cards. At that point you
could populate the chassis the way you need it, and get your Voip and
router all at once in a better than consumer piece of hardware. Of
course you could probably build a small flash booting box out of digium
hardware and a PC that would fit the bill for small port density at a
cheaper cost for new parts.
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