Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
Dear all,
After i test asterisk gui branch 2.0 and asterisk 1.6.1 i
found many change in users.conf
look like we can set many think in users.conf like a voicemail , sip ,
iax , manager
but i try to check about dynamic realtime. i found still support sip ,
iax user.
Can anyone tell me about plan for dynamic realtime for full support
all feature in users.conf
Best Regards.
Dome C.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:09:09 Dome Charoenyost wrote:
Quote:
After i test asterisk gui branch 2.0 and asterisk 1.6.1 i
found many change in users.conf
look like we can set many think in users.conf like a voicemail , sip ,
iax , manager
but i try to check about dynamic realtime. i found still support sip ,
iax user.
Can anyone tell me about plan for dynamic realtime for full support
all feature in users.conf
I don't think dynamic realtime will ever "support" users.conf. The reason is,
users.conf isn't the master file for really any module; it's more of a
compendium of options from every single module configuration. If you want
dynamic realtime, you create individual tables that are specific to each
module, not one big table for all of them.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 09:17:45AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
Quote:
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:09:09 Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> After i test asterisk gui branch 2.0 and asterisk 1.6.1 i
> found many change in users.conf
> look like we can set many think in users.conf like a voicemail , sip ,
> iax , manager
>
> but i try to check about dynamic realtime. i found still support sip ,
> iax user.
>
> Can anyone tell me about plan for dynamic realtime for full support
> all feature in users.conf
I don't think dynamic realtime will ever "support" users.conf. The reason is,
users.conf isn't the master file for really any module; it's more of a
compendium of options from every single module configuration. If you want
dynamic realtime, you create individual tables that are specific to each
module, not one big table for all of them.
Furthermore, the way the asterisk-gui works, I don't think it can be
used to control dynamic real-time. After all, all the information you
see on the web interface is from information Asterisk sees. And for
dynamic real-time, Asterisk does not know the configuration and thus
cannot report it (let alone modify it).
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 09:17:45AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 07:09:09 Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> > Â Â Â Â After i test asterisk gui branch 2.0 and asterisk 1.6.1 i
> > found many change in users.conf
> > look like we can set many think in users.conf like a voicemail , sip ,
> > iax , manager
> >
> > but i try to check about dynamic realtime. i found still support sip ,
> > iax user.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me about plan for dynamic realtime for full support
> > all feature in users.conf
>
> I don't think dynamic realtime will ever "support" users.conf. Â The reason is,
> users.conf isn't the master file for really any module; it's more of a
> compendium of options from every single module configuration. Â If you want
> dynamic realtime, you create individual tables that are specific to each
> module, not one big table for all of them.
Furthermore, the way the asterisk-gui works, I don't think it can be
used to control dynamic real-time. After all, all the information you
see on the web interface is from information Asterisk sees. And for
dynamic real-time, Asterisk does not know the configuration and thus
cannot report it (let alone modify it).
I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
Dome C.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
Quote:
I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
That is correct. users.conf was never intended to be used at that
scale.
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445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Russell Bryant <russell@digium.com> wrote:
Quote:
On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
> it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
That is correct. Â users.conf was never intended to be used at that
scale.
I'm looking 1.6.1 source code. and i agree Tilghman. realtime design
for individual table.
if integrate all service in one table for realtime it's big table.
but i'm thinking about redesign realtime to work like users.conf
1 row for all service.
example
- sip (hassip)
- h323 (hash323)
- iax2 (hasiax2)
- voicemail (voicemail and password)
- manager (hasmanager)
anything else ?
Dome C.
Quote:
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Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Engineer, Open Source Team Lead
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
Check us out at: www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 07:22:39PM +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Russell Bryant <russell@digium.com> wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
>> it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
>
>
> That is correct. users.conf was never intended to be used at that
> scale.
I'm looking 1.6.1 source code. and i agree Tilghman. realtime design
for individual table.
if integrate all service in one table for realtime it's big table.
but i'm thinking about redesign realtime to work like users.conf
1 row for all service.
example
- sip (hassip)
- h323 (hash323)
- iax2 (hasiax2)
- voicemail (voicemail and password)
- manager (hasmanager)
anything else ?
This works as long as you have a separate table for each.
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 07:22:39PM +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Russell Bryant <russell@digium.com> wrote:
> >
> > On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> >
> >> I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
> >> it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
> >
> >
> > That is correct. Â users.conf was never intended to be used at that
> > scale.
>
> I'm looking 1.6.1 source code. and  i agree Tilghman. realtime design
> for individual table.
> if integrate all service in one table for realtime it's big table.
>
> but i'm thinking about redesign realtime to work like users.conf
> 1 row for all service.
> example
> - sip  (hassip)
> - h323 (hash323)
> - iax2 (hasiax2)
> - voicemail (voicemail and password)
> - manager (hasmanager)
>
> anything else ?
This works as long as you have a separate table for each.
may be make dummy table compatble with users.conf and use store
procedure handle separate table.
Quote:
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
It's not a procedure, but a view to other realtame tables.
On Saturday 09 May 2009, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com>
wrote:
Quote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 07:22:39PM +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Russell Bryant <russell@digium.com>
wrote:
Quote:
>> > On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
>> >> I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
>> >> it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
>> >
>> > That is correct. Â users.conf was never intended to be used at that
>> > scale.
>>
>> I'm looking 1.6.1 source code. and  i agree Tilghman. realtime design
>> for individual table.
>> if integrate all service in one table for realtime it's big table.
>>
>> but i'm thinking about redesign realtime to work like users.conf
>> 1 row for all service.
>> example
>> - sip  (hassip)
>> - h323 (hash323)
>> - iax2 (hasiax2)
>> - voicemail (voicemail and password)
>> - manager (hasmanager)
>>
>> anything else ?
>
> This works as long as you have a separate table for each.
may be make dummy table compatble with users.conf and use store
procedure handle separate table.
> --
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:01 am Post subject: [asterisk-dev] users.conf and dynamic realtime
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Sergey Okhapkin
<sos@sokhapkin.dyndns.org> wrote:
Quote:
It's not a procedure, but a view to other realtame tables.
On Saturday 09 May 2009, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com>
wrote:
> > On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 07:22:39PM +0700, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> >> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Russell Bryant <russell@digium.com>
wrote:
> >> > On May 8, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dome Charoenyost wrote:
> >> >> I'm thinking about 10,000 subscribers. when implement in university.
> >> >> it's not good idea when reload 10,000 users on users.conf
> >> >
> >> > That is correct. Â users.conf was never intended to be used at that
> >> > scale.
> >>
> >> I'm looking 1.6.1 source code. and  i agree Tilghman. realtime design
> >> for individual table.
> >> if integrate all service in one table for realtime it's big table.
> >>
> >> but i'm thinking about redesign realtime to work like users.conf
> >> 1 row for all service.
> >> example
> >> - sip  (hassip)
> >> - h323 (hash323)
> >> - iax2 (hasiax2)
> >> - voicemail (voicemail and password)
> >> - manager (hasmanager)
> >>
> >> anything else ?
> >
> > This works as long as you have a separate table for each.
>
> may be make dummy table compatble with  users.conf and use store
> procedure handle separate table.
Thanks. I'll try
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