Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 06:39 +1100, Eric Bishop wrote:
Quote:
Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically
I just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is
answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
Hi Eric :)
The terminology I've always understood for this feature is called 'Camp
on Hold' ... and google says this about 'asterisk camp on hold'
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
I think "attack dialing" means to dial all 10,000 number in an exchange,
looking for modems and fax machines. BTW, Colorado Springs, Colorado
has made it illegal to dial a number without intending to have a
conversation <sigh> Probably something to do with NORAD or Space Command.
Eric Bishop wrote:
Quote:
Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I
just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is
answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
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I think "attack dialing" means to dial all 10,000 number in an exchange,
looking for modems and fax machines. BTW, Colorado Springs, Colorado
has made it illegal to dial a number without intending to have a
conversation <sigh> Probably something to do with NORAD or Space Command.
It's actually called 'war-dialing'. There were loads of programs to do it using a modem back in the day -- they'd even randomize and track the dialed numbers.
But Eric just seems to want an auto-redial-on-busy/congested -- which should be pretty simple...
Assuming you have Zap PRI as group 1 and the specific number you want to redial is 5551212:
exten => 5551212,1,Dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN}
exten => 5551212,2,GotoIf($[x${DiALSTATUS} = xANSWER]?10)
exten => 5551212,3,Wait(3)
exten => 5551212,4,Goto(1)
exten => 5551212,10,NoOp(call was answered so do something with it)
If anyone knows a way to detect if a remote number becomes 'un-busy' without actually dialing the number, it would make for an even more elegant solution.
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Have you looked at retrydial?
On 12/11/05, Eric Bishop <asterisk.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I
just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is answered
and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
Thanks.....
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
In Australia, dialling a number more than 3 times in a row without waiting a
certain amount of time is not allowed to be programmed into a system.
Not against the law, but againt telecom reg's.
PaulH
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I think "attack dialing" means to dial all 10,000 number in an exchange,
looking for modems and fax machines. BTW, Colorado Springs, Colorado
has made it illegal to dial a number without intending to have a
conversation <sigh> Probably something to do with NORAD or Space Command.
Eric Bishop wrote:
> Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I
> just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is
> answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Quote:
In Australia, dialling a number more than 3 times in a row without waiting a
certain amount of time is not allowed to be programmed into a system.
Not against the law, but againt telecom reg's.
> I think "attack dialing" means to dial all 10,000 number in an exchange,
> looking for modems and fax machines. BTW, Colorado Springs, Colorado
> has made it illegal to dial a number without intending to have a
> conversation <sigh> Probably something to do with NORAD or Space Command.
>
> > Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I
> > just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is
> > answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
The OP just happened to use incorrect words for a "pbx" feature that
is rather well known as "camp-on". The majority (if not all manufacturers)
do not allow the camp-on feature to be used with outside numbers; only pbx
extensions.
The retrydial that someone suggested is sort of a first step, but
doesn't come close to what commercial pbx manufacturers call camp-on.
In the commercial systems that I'm familiar with, if you call an extension
that is busy, you press a predefined key for the system and hang up. The
pbx then silently monitors for that extension to become available, and
when it does, calls both the caller and the callee back, bridging the
two together automatically. (Some systems use a destinctive ring for
such camp-on return calls, and include the logic to test both exensions
to be sure both are available before completing the camp-on return call.)
I'm not a programmer and couldn't code this up if I wanted to, but it is
a nice feature and all the basic components needed to develop the feature
already exist in * code. I suppose some could code an agi script to do it,
but it seems to me such a feature should be included in * code instead.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 16:25 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:
Quote:
> > > Anyone have eny elegant dial plan config for attack dialing? Basically I
> > > just want to automatically and continuously dial a busy until it is
> > > answered and then hand it over to a SIP hanset.
The OP just happened to use incorrect words for a "pbx" feature that
is rather well known as "camp-on". The majority (if not all manufacturers)
do not allow the camp-on feature to be used with outside numbers; only pbx
extensions.
there is an asterisk agi (may not be an agi but is a program, I think it
was an agi) to do this for radio stations, perhaps a google for that, I
dont remember the exact name used but do remember that someone was
speaking about mass dialing to a radio contest line and bridging to
their phone once it was connected. I am sure that it can be modified to
do just one chanenl if that is desired. If it doesnt exist a timeout
could most likely be easily added so that it doesnt continue to dial
after some period has elapsed. For radio contests you most likely dont
want it to dial all day as the call in parts are short lived.
Quote:
In the commercial systems that I'm familiar with, if you call an extension
that is busy, you press a predefined key for the system and hang up. The
pbx then silently monitors for that extension to become available, and
when it does, calls both the caller and the callee back, bridging the
two together automatically. (Some systems use a destinctive ring for
such camp-on return calls, and include the logic to test both exensions
to be sure both are available before completing the camp-on return call.)
That works internally but not outside the pbx unless you do infact
redial the number over and over. Unless that was included in your
definition of 'monitor' which was not clear.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Rich Adamson wrote:
Quote:
I'm not a programmer and couldn't code this up if I wanted to, but it is
a nice feature and all the basic components needed to develop the feature
already exist in * code. I suppose some could code an agi script to do it,
but it seems to me such a feature should be included in * code instead.
It's not too hard on Asterisk; we've done it in the past, including for
external numbers. The hardest part is making it reliable with external
numbers, as it has the bad habit of connecting you to voicemail, PBXs
which answer then play ringing as they try to connect you to the
extension, etc. For this reason, we generally recommend using it on
internal numbers only were we know exactly how the call is going to be
routed.
Alistair Cunningham,
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Quote:
there is an asterisk agi (may not be an agi but is a program, I think it
was an agi) to do this for radio stations, perhaps a google for that, I
dont remember the exact name used but do remember that someone was
speaking about mass dialing to a radio contest line and bridging to
their phone once it was connected. I am sure that it can be modified to
do just one chanenl if that is desired. If it doesnt exist a timeout
could most likely be easily added so that it doesnt continue to dial
after some period has elapsed. For radio contests you most likely dont
want it to dial all day as the call in parts are short lived.
Oh now that's interesting! I don't see it anywhere though... where
did you originally see this?!
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 08:49 -0500, Matt wrote:
Quote:
> there is an asterisk agi (may not be an agi but is a program, I think it
> was an agi) to do this for radio stations, perhaps a google for that, I
> dont remember the exact name used but do remember that someone was
> speaking about mass dialing to a radio contest line and bridging to
> their phone once it was connected. I am sure that it can be modified to
> do just one chanenl if that is desired. If it doesnt exist a timeout
> could most likely be easily added so that it doesnt continue to dial
> after some period has elapsed. For radio contests you most likely dont
> want it to dial all day as the call in parts are short lived.
Oh now that's interesting! I don't see it anywhere though... where
did you originally see this?!
I dont remember but if I had to guess here..
I did a quick google and didnt get anything, but I am fairly sure that I
saw someone talking about it and didnt dream that idea up myself, I do
remember thinking 'gee that would be nice if I could actually get a
radio station where I live'.
They were talking about using VoIP (sip I think) to generate a large
amount of channels all at the same time to guarantee they could get at
least one line in. With the 'enter every 30 days' policies that most
radio stations have odds are you will win every month.
They said that when it connected it just rang their sip phone.
This would be trivial to do (although a bit klugy) with the outgoing
queue. You just set it to dial via whatever channel is appropriate and
have it dial when connected (I would think about tossing it in a queue
so you can deal with the calls in an orderly fashion as some contests
answer 'you are caller 1' even though you didnt win).
I *think* the original poster said they had a special extension that
they called that spawned all this off, which indicates an AGI - although
I could be wrong, I am fairly sure they did say something about that.
Hopefully this gives people either enough ideas to write something which
wouldnt be that hard as described above, or even to find the original
author (unless it was all in my mind!) and use his package. I almost
think it would be faster to write it yourself than to hunt down the
original guy though. What I said above is what 15 minutes tops to write
and test?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
I think I've got something whipped up with the queue... however, it
would be nice to not have to pick the phone up when it rings, but
rather have asterisk just queue as you speak of.. and connect the call
to your handset, already off-hook.. is there a way to do that?
On 12/12/05, trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 08:49 -0500, Matt wrote:
> > there is an asterisk agi (may not be an agi but is a program, I think it
> > was an agi) to do this for radio stations, perhaps a google for that, I
> > dont remember the exact name used but do remember that someone was
> > speaking about mass dialing to a radio contest line and bridging to
> > their phone once it was connected. I am sure that it can be modified to
> > do just one chanenl if that is desired. If it doesnt exist a timeout
> > could most likely be easily added so that it doesnt continue to dial
> > after some period has elapsed. For radio contests you most likely dont
> > want it to dial all day as the call in parts are short lived.
>
> Oh now that's interesting! I don't see it anywhere though... where
> did you originally see this?!
I dont remember but if I had to guess here..
I did a quick google and didnt get anything, but I am fairly sure that I
saw someone talking about it and didnt dream that idea up myself, I do
remember thinking 'gee that would be nice if I could actually get a
radio station where I live'.
They were talking about using VoIP (sip I think) to generate a large
amount of channels all at the same time to guarantee they could get at
least one line in. With the 'enter every 30 days' policies that most
radio stations have odds are you will win every month.
They said that when it connected it just rang their sip phone.
This would be trivial to do (although a bit klugy) with the outgoing
queue. You just set it to dial via whatever channel is appropriate and
have it dial when connected (I would think about tossing it in a queue
so you can deal with the calls in an orderly fashion as some contests
answer 'you are caller 1' even though you didnt win).
I *think* the original poster said they had a special extension that
they called that spawned all this off, which indicates an AGI - although
I could be wrong, I am fairly sure they did say something about that.
Hopefully this gives people either enough ideas to write something which
wouldnt be that hard as described above, or even to find the original
author (unless it was all in my mind!) and use his package. I almost
think it would be faster to write it yourself than to hunt down the
original guy though. What I said above is what 15 minutes tops to write
and test?
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UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402
US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200
FreeWorldDialup: 635378
http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Ok.. here is another pet peeve i have.. that maybe someone can answer...
When I do a call file.
How can I make the call be transfered to the second party BEFORE the
first party picks up? In other words.. right now if it's busy it will
keep trying.. however if it's ringing... it waits until PARTY 1 picks
up and THEN transfers the call to party 2... how can I transfer to
party 2 as soon as I start getting ringing to party 1?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Hiya Matt,
I might be missing a key thing to this but, why not 'reverse your
parties' round. Have your second party the first one and your first one
the second.
That way your extension gets dialled first - and picked up, then the
number you want to call to gets called 2nd - while your extension sits
and listens to the ringing.
does that make sense!
Wayne.
Matt wrote:
Quote:
Ok.. here is another pet peeve i have.. that maybe someone can answer...
When I do a call file.
How can I make the call be transfered to the second party BEFORE the
first party picks up? In other words.. right now if it's busy it will
keep trying.. however if it's ringing... it waits until PARTY 1 picks
up and THEN transfers the call to party 2... how can I transfer to
party 2 as soon as I start getting ringing to party 1?
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Users] Attack dialing
Yeah.. except not for a busy-call-back type of application... or
really any application where you only want your phone to ring when the
line you are calling becomes NON-busy :) See what I'm getting at?
On 12/12/05, Wayne <Wayne@planetwayne.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hiya Matt,
I might be missing a key thing to this but, why not 'reverse your
parties' round. Have your second party the first one and your first one
the second.
That way your extension gets dialled first - and picked up, then the
number you want to call to gets called 2nd - while your extension sits
and listens to the ringing.
does that make sense!
Wayne.
Matt wrote:
>Ok.. here is another pet peeve i have.. that maybe someone can answer...
>When I do a call file.
>How can I make the call be transfered to the second party BEFORE the
>first party picks up? In other words.. right now if it's busy it will
>keep trying.. however if it's ringing... it waits until PARTY 1 picks
>up and THEN transfers the call to party 2... how can I transfer to
>party 2 as soon as I start getting ringing to party 1?
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