Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
I hate posting about bad posting, but the -dev list has had a very
poor signal:noise ratio in the last week or two. I can no longer
keep up with -users, and I'm hoping I don't have to similarly banish
-dev into the Mailboxes That Never Get Read folder. Please keep
posts to development topics. Questions about hardware, parameters to
launch Asterisk, questions about suitability of Asterisk for X
application, and the like should go to -users. People who ask -users
questions should be replied to once, and asked in that post to go to
-users without any explanation of a response, because any explanation
will simply lead to lengthening of the thread on -dev.
This post in itself is noise, and the topics I mention I'm sure have
been discussed many times before, and so I apologize for repeating
what has hopefully already been said in a less obvious location.
However, I probably haven't read them inside a 20-reply Subject:
thread since the chatter is getting too deep.
Police yourselves, folks. Think of it this way: would you stand up,
walk to the front of a room filled with 150 programmers, and ask the
question you are about to post to -dev? If you would expect (a)
jeers, (b) confused looks, or (c) a comment from the moderator about
how topics should be kept to development topics as you were hustled
off the stage, then you should perhaps post to -users. Snarky
replies to inappropriate questions are just as much misspent time as
the original question, so keep that in mind as well.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board instead
of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with all
the lists in my email :)
-----Original Message-----
From: John Todd <jtodd@loligo.com>
To: asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:11:52 -0800
Subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
I hate posting about bad posting, but the -dev list has had a very poor
signal:noise ratio in the last week or two. I can no longer keep up
with -users, and I'm hoping I don't have to similarly banish -dev into
the Mailboxes That Never Get Read folder. Please keep posts to
development topics. Questions about hardware, parameters to launch
Asterisk, questions about suitability of Asterisk for X application,
and the like should go to -users. People who ask -users questions
should be replied to once, and asked in that post to go to -users
without any explanation of a response, because any explanation will
simply lead to lengthening of the thread on -dev.
This post in itself is noise, and the topics I mention I'm sure have
been discussed many times before, and so I apologize for repeating what
has hopefully already been said in a less obvious location. However, I
probably haven't read them inside a 20-reply Subject: thread since the
chatter is getting too deep.
Police yourselves, folks. Think of it this way: would you stand up,
walk to the front of a room filled with 150 programmers, and ask the
question you are about to post to -dev? If you would expect (a) jeers,
(b) confused looks, or (c) a comment from the moderator about how
topics should be kept to development topics as you were hustled off the
stage, then you should perhaps post to -users. Snarky replies to
inappropriate questions are just as much misspent time as the original
question, so keep that in mind as well.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:50 -0800, Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board instead
of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with all
the lists in my email :)
<insert standard message boards suck rant here>
Search archives to fill in above block
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: John Todd <jtodd@loligo.com>
To: asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:11:52 -0800
Subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
I hate posting about bad posting, but the -dev list has had a very poor
signal:noise ratio in the last week or two. I can no longer keep up
with -users, and I'm hoping I don't have to similarly banish -dev into
the Mailboxes That Never Get Read folder. Please keep posts to
development topics. Questions about hardware, parameters to launch
Asterisk, questions about suitability of Asterisk for X application,
and the like should go to -users. People who ask -users questions
should be replied to once, and asked in that post to go to -users
without any explanation of a response, because any explanation will
simply lead to lengthening of the thread on -dev.
This post in itself is noise, and the topics I mention I'm sure have
been discussed many times before, and so I apologize for repeating what
has hopefully already been said in a less obvious location. However, I
probably haven't read them inside a 20-reply Subject: thread since the
chatter is getting too deep.
Police yourselves, folks. Think of it this way: would you stand up,
walk to the front of a room filled with 150 programmers, and ask the
question you are about to post to -dev? If you would expect (a) jeers,
(b) confused looks, or (c) a comment from the moderator about how
topics should be kept to development topics as you were hustled off the
stage, then you should perhaps post to -users. Snarky replies to
inappropriate questions are just as much misspent time as the original
question, so keep that in mind as well.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Message boards sort topics by thread, so you don't even have to read
threads that don't pertain to you.. responses stay in that thread as
well. And response can only be made in that thread :) Searching
archives is nothing like that :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List <asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:57:30 -0600
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:50 -0800, Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board
instead
Quote:
of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with
all
Quote:
the lists in my email :)
<insert standard message boards suck rant here>
Search archives to fill in above block
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: John Todd <jtodd@loligo.com>
To: asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:11:52 -0800
Subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
I hate posting about bad posting, but the -dev list has had a very
poor
Quote:
signal:noise ratio in the last week or two. I can no longer keep up
with -users, and I'm hoping I don't have to similarly banish -dev
into
Quote:
the Mailboxes That Never Get Read folder. Please keep posts to
development topics. Questions about hardware, parameters to launch
Asterisk, questions about suitability of Asterisk for X application,
and the like should go to -users. People who ask -users questions
should be replied to once, and asked in that post to go to -users
without any explanation of a response, because any explanation will
simply lead to lengthening of the thread on -dev.
This post in itself is noise, and the topics I mention I'm sure
have
Quote:
been discussed many times before, and so I apologize for repeating
what
Quote:
has hopefully already been said in a less obvious location. However,
I
Quote:
probably haven't read them inside a 20-reply Subject: thread since
the
Quote:
chatter is getting too deep.
Police yourselves, folks. Think of it this way: would you stand up,
walk to the front of a room filled with 150 programmers, and ask the
question you are about to post to -dev? If you would expect (a)
jeers,
Quote:
(b) confused looks, or (c) a comment from the moderator about how
topics should be kept to development topics as you were hustled off
the
Quote:
stage, then you should perhaps post to -users. Snarky replies to
inappropriate questions are just as much misspent time as the
original
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Message boards sort topics by thread, so you don't even have to read
threads that don't pertain to you.. responses stay in that thread as
well. And response can only be made in that thread :) Searching
archives is nothing like that :)
MHO: Losing battle. Like Steven said, it has been fought and fought,
and starting in again here is just going to cause more flames because of
the noise.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board instead
of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with all
the lists in my email :)
See the asterisk-users mailing list archives for all the reasons why
this will not (and should not) happen. If the number of messages is a
problem for you then learn to use some of the many e-mail filtering
tools available. Filtering in your e-mail client, GMail, procmail,
etc. The problem is not the mailing list, it's the user.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Message boards sort topics by thread, so you don't even have to read
threads that don't pertain to you.. responses stay in that thread as
well. And response can only be made in that thread :) Searching
archives is nothing like that :)
My e-mail client also provides viewing messages by thread. Doesn't
your's?
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Message boards sort topics by thread, so you don't even have to read
threads that don't pertain to you.. responses stay in that thread as
well. And response can only be made in that thread :) Searching
archives is nothing like that :)
Try Thunderbird.
--
Cheers,
Matt Riddell
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
On January 27, 2005 07:50 pm, Preston Garrison wrote:
Quote:
Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board instead
of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with all
the lists in my email :)
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject: [Asterisk-Dev] S/N ratio not improving on -dev
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Quote:
On January 27, 2005 07:50 pm, Preston Garrison wrote:
>Has there been any thoughts to moving these to a message board instead
>of email? I admit to its just getting overwelming keeping up with all
>the lists in my email :)
Yes; the answer is no, and a loud, resounding no.
Web based forums are EEEEEVILLLLL
there is something in mozilla called filters that will help you send
mails to their appropriate location (for instance, a folder in the
mailbox)...
see "Tools" -> "Message Filters..."
also, note the "Junk Mail Controls..." option below, you may have a use
for it ;D
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